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Nick QQQ 2:27 Wed Aug 2
2020+ when movies went shit

Did Netflix and the other production companies ruin movies? Was watching the Kingsman last night, love that film, and it got me thinking. Every film i've watched over the last few years has been shit, in fact cant remember the last release that was any good.

What is it? Attention spans of millenials and gen z's not having the attention span or looking up from scrolling tiktok or just the release volumes from the new emerging companies reducing the quality?

Anyway, anyone watched anything good lately? I'm fucking bored of all this rain and wind sitting on my arse flicking through tiktok every night.

Pickle Rick 2:34 Wed Aug 2
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panicking due to a drop in subscriptions so flood the site with tons of films and a few are bound to pass the sniff test.

BRANDED 2:40 Wed Aug 2
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West Side Story
Belfast
Oppenheimer
All Quiet on the Western Front
The Banshees

Lee Trundle 2:43 Wed Aug 2
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I don't think it just movies that went to shit

2020 (thanks to the reaction to covid) was a year pretty much everything went to shit.

RBshorty 2:44 Wed Aug 2
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Where too start on this one.?

Alienate half your paying audience. (I'll let you figure out which half.)
Throwing ridiculous time, talent and money into IP's for diminish returns.
Thinking streaming services were the future. And throwing as much shit as possible out there hoping something will stick.
Employing untalented writers. And falling over themselves for the PC/Woke crowd.
And the most important one: NEVER LISTENING TO YOUR CUSTOMER.!

2020.? You're being way too generous. You can go back at least a decade. You start witnessing the drop off.

Takashi Miike 2:48 Wed Aug 2
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netflix started long before 2020

BRANDED 2:49 Wed Aug 2
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BTW, I think all the best talent is in TV. You get regular work, great income and make amazing drama.

Council Scum 2:50 Wed Aug 2
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Little Bone Lodger is a great film just come out.

It's the likes of Disney that are killing the Blockbusters

Manuel 3:14 Wed Aug 2
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CS - I'm onto that very soon.

Kaiser Zoso 3:49 Wed Aug 2
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Nick QQQ 2:27 Wed Aug 2

Spot on, unless you like to believe that attractive females can beat the shit out of big burly men.

There must be a massive loss in audience numbers, across the board? There’s hardly anything these days that isn’t shit.

North Bank 3:54 Wed Aug 2
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Wasn't Ricky Gervais correct with his summation that acting is no longer important, these days the blockbusters only require ripped blokes in tight silly costumes with weak scripts?

zico 3:59 Wed Aug 2
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Since the advent of CGI most films seem to have forgotten the script and dialogue. After all actors are only as good as the script they have. The box ticking these days doesn't help either, film has become a way to preach someone else's views to the viewer rather than be an entertainment. Also I think there is a lack of books now that are made into films. Growing up many a classic was based on a book. Alistair Maclean, Frederick Forsythe, Stephen King, CS Lewis, Mario Puzo, Roald Dahl, to name a few. How many are there today? The originality seems to have been moved aside in preference for the remake, most far poorer than the original. Just my opinion.

Council Scum 4:05 Wed Aug 2
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Actors aren't allowed to act anymore, you have to play yourself or you are accused of "cripping up" "White washing" "homophobia" etc

The art of playing another role is dead, it's too offensive these days.

Gaffer58 4:06 Wed Aug 2
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I’m guessing by shit you would really like to say PC Correct or woke. All media,TV, film etc is so woke nowadays. Just whatch any adverts and it’s all multi coloured mixed families., and as said earlier some women kicking the shit out or a 16 stone man.

Mad Dog 4:21 Wed Aug 2
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Disney has a lot to answer for.

They had great franchises and have ruined every single one of them
Mcu
Star wars
Indian jones
And they're remaking their old films... for "modern audiences"

Eg the new snow white. Snow white no longer has skin as white as snow, the dwarves are no longer here dwarves and the Prince will NOT be saving snow white.

They all have replaced legacy characters with the same "strong female character" and humiliated all the once great characters and fans are pissed off.

They're also turning out sludge at a phenomenal rate because they need to stream content. Fuck quality, its quantity now.

Cgi is fucking awful now.

There's a reason maverick did so well. Respect the IP, real effects, no politics.

Another thing is there are no stars anymore. Back when I was young, you went to see the new schwaezennegger movie, the new bruce Willis film etc.
Now we don't have stars
Tom cruise and maybe the rock are the only 2 that could be considered as such.

Hopefully it will return, but there are good films still. Nobody, maverick, bullet train etc. And I hearing good things about oppenheimer

Lee Trundle 4:32 Wed Aug 2
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"The art of playing another role is dead, it's too offensive these days."

I find this really odd. They're actors/actresses. They're job is to be someone they're not and make it convincing to the audience.

I see that David Baddiel has piped up today moaning that Openheimer was jewish and that Cillian Murphy is an atheist. Who fucking cares?

Lee Trundle 4:32 Wed Aug 2
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*Their

zico 4:39 Wed Aug 2
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Mad Dog 4:21 Wed Aug 2

Can't disagree with any of that. I would also place Tom Hanks as one of the "movie stars" but even his newer releases seem to have been placed on other platforms where yet again you would have to pay a subscription to watch it.

There is just too much these days, quantity over quality. When I was a youngster it seemed that I could probably watch every film that came out over the year if I wanted too. Now there wouldn't be enough hours in a day to watch everything, and 90% is probably crap. Plus too many actors, certainly from yesteryear are taking on too many straight to DVD/streaming rubbish. Once upon a time you wouldn't really see De Niro or Pacino make a bad film, but as they have got older most of their work over the last 10-15 years, maybe longer is just rubbish. I'll give Bruce Willis a pass because that was obviously him just making enough money to make his family more than comfortable before he couldn't work anymore. A tragedy for one of my favourite actors.

I think the demise of the Video shop also has had a massive impact. Certainly the video library that I went to the owner knew all the tastes of all of his customers. I can honestly say I never rented out a bad film because I trusted his judgement. Now you rely on luck. I just stumbled across that "Nobody" on Netflix and because I watched that I saw another called "The Gunman" with Sean Penn that was very good. So Netflix does help linking similar films to what you have watched.

The days of Jimmy Stewart, Cary Grant, Newman, McQueen, Hackman, Redford etc are long gone though I fear.

Manuel 4:50 Wed Aug 2
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Yea the 'movie star' seems to be a thing of the past now, Tom Cruise is just about the last man standing, Hanks is big but never been 'glam'. Brad Pitt, old man Ford and Denzel still have a bit of pull.

Nick QQQ 5:12 Wed Aug 2
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Interesting debate on movie stars. I wonder what names you'd hear if you asked that question to 16-25 year olds.

I bet you'd get a massive spread many who we (me) might not recognise.

Regardless though as many of you have said, it's not the acting, it's the piss poor scripting overlaid with needless CGI which is the problem.

zico 5:14 Wed Aug 2
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Indeed. Can you imagine if they tried to make The Towering Inferno now?! Wouldn't even get close to the classic cast of the original, although I have had a go!

Cast
Steve McQueen as Michael O'Halloran, SFFD 5th Battalion Chief - Now = Tom Cruise

Paul Newman as Doug Roberts, the Glass Tower architect - Now = Brad Pitt

William Holden as James Duncan, the builder - Now = Russell Crowe

Faye Dunaway as Susan Franklin, Doug Roberts' fiancée - Now Charlize Theron

Fred Astaire as Harlee Claiborne, the con-man who flirts with Mrs. Mueller - Now = Michael Douglas

Susan Blakely as Patty Duncan Simmons, James Duncan's daughter - Now = Scarlett Johansson

Richard Chamberlain as Roger Simmons, the electrical engineer and Duncan's son-in-law - Now = Christian Bale

Jennifer Jones as Lisolette Mueller - Now = Nicole Kidman

O.J. Simpson as Harry Jernigan, the chief security officer - Now = Denzel Washington

Robert Vaughn as U.S. Senator Gary Parker - Now = Tom Hanks

Robert Wagner as Dan Bigelow, the public relations officer - Now = Hugh Jackman

Susan Flannery as Lorrie, Dan Bigelow's secretary and girlfriend - Now = Dakota Fanning (screams a lot, perfect!)

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